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I’d just like to comment that in the past few weeks there have been a number of great “How to” tutorials posted here on the OLF with respectful comments and thoughts by members on additional alternate ways to do things. A couple great well illustrated and explained posts by Hesh, Brad Goodman’s on making slotted headstocks Tools for routing saddle slots come to mind.

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Quality and informative Tutorials really enhance the value in participating for not only the Newbie like myself but the intermediate and more advanced builders. There is always a different or may be better way to do things.

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A suggestion if I may is since we don’t have a topic organized library (not meant as a criticism), if contributors could use a heading that includes “Tutorial” or “Photo Essay” together with the Topic.    For example “Tutorial or Photo Essay – Woolson Jig Design Changes”, it would make using the search engine on the OLF all that much better. I have been recently working on making the Woolson Tenon Jig and found that I had to use a number of different combinations to glean what I was looking for. (Paul has better things to do than respond to my dumb PM’s).

TUTORIALS GET MORE READERSHIP THAN YOU THINK
Lastly to you Tutorial contributors, folks (myself included) don’t always chime in with a “great post and thank you” but know that many of us are reading, digesting and often saving the information for future reference. Ofter there are threads like “Got Zoot” with a zillion “oooo and aahhhh” comments whereas a tutorial has relatively fewer posts. My suspicion is the Tutorial threads are getting a lot more readership.

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Selfishly I am really encouraged to see a return to more Tutorial posts as from my perspective I see a return to what the OLF was designed to do – sharing knowledge. So if I and others aren’t posting “thank you's” know that we are thankful and benefiting by your knowledge.

Thank you for listening and many many thanks for all the great Tutorials! Keep 'em coming -- I just may learn to build a great guitar yet!


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Thanks Anthony!
Great post and perspective!

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Well said
I love the tutorials
I am always looking for a better way to do things and often I don''t even
know they exist until I see how others do it!!!
Then I Say......"Why haven't I been doing it that way...that is so much better
and easier!!!!!!!!"

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Hear, hear! More, More!

While I appreciate seeing tutorials posted here by hobbyists, I'd love to see more from you pros who post here. But I suspect you guys have less time in your tight build schedules to do it. There are some great tutorials on the pros' sites, though.

Thanks to all!

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I should have also mentioned Paul Woolson's pictures on binding soundhole ports. Terrence Kennedy's threads and not to forget great material Tony Karol and Todd Stock have posted -- I am sure I have missed others.

Pat I agree -- but scouring tutorials on the pros sites requires a lot of searching where its nice to use the OLF as a "go to spot". Fortuneately a number of OLF'ers post links when they find sites of interest. I must admit I do frequent Sylvan's website.

If someone had a ton of time -- you could gather up all the how to material from the OLF and probably publish a great guitar building book.


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Anthony,

That was a very appropriate, and well deserving acknowledgment
to all OLF members who have posted some very fine tutorials.

Also, excellent suggestion for a library of some sort!

I have to say, this is the kind discussion that had drawn me to the OLF in the first place!

Anthony, You are a real Gentleman!

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as a "Terminal" Newbie, I would agree wholeheartedly, these tutorials provide a lot of affirmation to other things we have heard or read, and give some excellent, well thought out, shortcuts for other things.  When you have seen pictures and read the process, you don't feel so timid about trying things that you have never done before.

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[QUOTE=Anthony Z] Pat I agree -- but scouring tutorials on the pros sites requires a lot of searching where its nice to use the OLF as a "go to spot". Fortuneately a number of OLF'ers post links when they find sites of interest. I must admit I do frequent Sylvan's website.
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It's surely true that scouring sites for tutorials is time-consuming. Perhaps we could have some sites listed in the Online Resources Section at the top of the OLF pages, under tutorials. OLFers could post their favorite tutorials in a thread here, we could compile them and put the links in Online Resources. I've done some web work; I'd be willing to compile them and send in the html.

What say ye, Lance and Brock?

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Well, I just happened to look under Online Resources, and found about a dozen tutorials that I hadn't seen before. There sure are more out there that could be added!

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I whole-heartedly agree with you, Anthony.

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Thanks Anthony for starting this thread.

I am new to the site, but be assured the tutorials do not fall on deaf ears here. I have been reading all the tutorials, visiting the off-forum tutorials and studying the jig plans, etc.. Although I do not have much to offer in the guitar building instruction, because of this forum I hope to within the next year. As it turns out, I have about three months of jig building before I can comfortably start my first guitar.

Thanks for the tutorials, links to other tutorials and useful jig info, and all the building techniques reviewed, criticized and improved.


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